Polyurethane can be used over enamel paint, which often provides a harder finish than latex-based paints. I didn't have the luxury of waiting 24-48 hours for base to dry and to scuff and shoot the Spraymax 2k clear so after an hour of basecoat drying slightly to the touch I shot one light coat of clear and then two medium coats for a nice glossy finish. For flat clear coats i use the Vallejo matte varnish 70.520. which is acrylic. "Also, base coat/clearcoat systems will dry quick enough, but single-stage paints have to sit overnight." Most urethanes, and acrylic enamels have a window of time you can apply more coats or clear without sanding, it varies with temperature, the reducer or hardener used, once you go beyond that time period you have to sand or the clear won't stick. Send … Enamel can not only be painted directly over epoxy paint, it requires it as an undercoat. The best type of paint to be used over a clear coat would be a glossy or semi-gloss latex acrylic paint, which can be wiped clean easily, are stain and dust resistant, and have a fade-resistant color range. 7 posts / 0 new . Home » Forum » General Discussion. I did it on a OT Maverick I had. Last post. On one of the other lists I'm on had a discussion of Enamels vs Clear Coat Base Coat paints. Stripes are 3M Scotchcal. Acrylic enamel paints last a lot longer, as they form a hard shell when they dry. In reverse, some acrylics may be reactive to enamel thinners. If I cant clear over oil base enamel such as these paints, do automotive paints work to swirl? I’ve used their clear enamel over rattle can metallic silver before, ended up looking like powder coating. The newest acrylic paints are acrylic urethane paints. List of reasons you might want to clear-coat over decals: It’s a safari vehicle or mud-bogger and you’ll be driving it deep into the mud daily, then clear-coating could add a second layer of durability. All you have to do is activate the two acrylic components, shake the can, and spray it on the surface. Our automotive paint and supplies store has been in the industry for 25 years. Lacquer uses a much "hotter" solvent. Enamel paints take longer to dry because the dryers are alkyd oil based, rather than acrylic. The problem here is that I use humbrol enamel paints as my base paint and if i use enamel thinner in the wash i'm pretty sure it's going to ruin the base paint by reactivating it. It is very easy to coat enamel paints with acrylic paints but you really should pay attention to a couple of points if you want it to be successful. I am going to spray painting a fender and wanted to know how long I would need to wait before applying acrylic clear coat over enamel base paint? I am using Acrylic Enamel with Urethane Hardner (Black) for base coat. If only applying a few light coats … 1 Posts . The same applies to removing excess wash. You are here. Just simple pinwashes. The thinners used for acrylics are "softer" and don't usually affect enamels. There are two versions of enamel paint; one that requires a clear topcoat called a two stage system and one that does not, a single stage system. Tamiya acrylics are not usually affected, Gunze acrylics are. From majestic jets to plain tugboats, enamel is commonly used on surfaces that require a durable coat of paint. Hey guys looking for some advice. I though I'd add this to the information I've provided on painting. So yeah, there is definitely a need for a good clear flat coat out there. Members Profile. Available in almost any color desired, it is a topcoat and, as such, requires a primer underneath it. Find everything from paint to the equipment you need for creating a custom finish for cars or motorcycles. acrylic is an acrylic enamel. I've just used Alclad aqua gloss and love it. I've also used Testor's Spray clear coats over Tamiya acrylic paints with no issues. My car was painted in the early 80's. Acrylic, or acrylic enamel paints are heavy bodied, high solid content paints. Have bought paint to do a two tone 64 Chevy pickup, and ordered bc/cc for the main body (light green) and for the cab top / pillars (ivory). "You can apply Glosscote/Dullcote over any Testors, Model Master or Aztek acrylic, enamel or lacquer as they are specially formulated to go over them with no problems. If you are using another brand of paint, please test before applying Glosscote or Dullcote to be sure there is no reaction. " Oil-based topcoats can have an ambering effect, which means that over time the clear coat can cause the surface of the furniture piece to yellow. I`m just wondering how you guys clear over enamel after doing a swirl? Hi, I've assembled a few drum sets now over the past 3-4 years, and I'm on a new one. And with hardner do I still need to scuff before clear coat?Can I clear coat over pinstriping Tape? When making the choice to use acrylic paint, you don’t have to worry about having to prep the paint, such as mixing in hardeners, as is necessary with urethane paint. Bought the paint from www.paintforcars.com, used their clear coat enamel over their acrylic enamel. Looks like glass. But if you have a white painted furniture piece, you can see how yellowing would be problematic! Starfire Acrylic Enamel Clear Coat offers fast dry times, high distinctness of image and a chemical and solvent-resistant paint film that resists chipping, cracking and fading. The film thickness of an acrylic enamel paint is much thicker than the paint film thickness of enamel, or lacquer-based coatings. Their auto paint is reasonably priced, too. I’ve painted a couple with enamel and clear over that, worked great and still looked good several years later. Majic Clear Coat High Gloss “Lacquer” is a durable, high gloss finish - designed for use over fully cured, Majic Tractor, Truck & Implement Enamels - to provide a greater “depth of image” to the finish, and to better protect the enamel finish from the damaging effects of the sun (UV light). Clear Coat 2K Acrylic Urethane, SMR-1150/1101-Q 4:1 Gallon Clearcoat Fast Kit 5 out of 5 stars (31) 31 product ratings - Clear Coat 2K Acrylic Urethane, SMR-1150/1101-Q 4:1 Gallon Clearcoat Fast Kit When this paint is applied by a professional the paint is actually baked onto the car. And would I need to do anything special before applying the clear coat? I was told it was an acrylic enamel. Failure to allow proper drying time can lead to the paint chipping or peeling, and may reduce the effectiveness of the topcoat. A clear coat is added over that paint to protect it. Rust-Oleum® Clear Enamel Spray is a transparent protective coat for painting projects. I used their wet look hardner in it. Free shipping on all orders from continental USA Older cars were painted in just a colored paint. 2) Enamels tend to continue to dry over a very long period of time. Test it in an inconspicuous spot like the bottom of the fuel tank. Turns out that they mixed the quart of ivory in Acrylic Enamel instead of Basecoat. Should be the same thing. Starfire Acrylic Enamel Clear Coat will add a very high gloss, greater durability, and resistance to fading to the color coat. Such as sand the enamel paint or would I spray paint over it after I clean it with a cloth and everything? The guy I got the car from said it was a GM color used on early 70's vettes. The nozzle is uniquely designed so that it flows smoothly and delivers a finish similar to that of a spray gun. Last seen: 6 years 12 months ago . I sprayed the wheels with duplicolor acrylic enamel. Midnight Metallic Blue. If you have a dark stained piece of furniture, this won’t be detectable and can even warm up the color of the wood slightly over time. Edited by tyrodtom - Dec/07/2015 at 11:06am. I used the MAX 2K clear coat over base color on my 2001 RAV4 front bumper. "Though sometimes on a two-tone car, I'll use a base/clear because a single-stage will have an edge that the wax will catch on," Gary said. Discussion Starter • #1 • Feb 22, 2013. Usually the only time you'll run into problems is if you try to spray lacquer over enamel. It came out great and only needs a light polish to finish the shine. So any impervious clear coat may cause later bubbling as the solvents continue to be released. So far I`m thinking Testors, but I also have some Tremclad mixed to the colours that I like and it worked well on some test pieces. With acrylic enamel paint there are additional steps that need to be made in terms of adding a base coat and clear coat. I need to know before I decide what paints to use. This time, I'm doing a pretty detailed paint job over the shells and would like to put a protective clear coat over it. Lacquer Model Paints Over Acrylics And Enamels. A monster show truck and you have a big budget and need things done quickly, then decals would be faster than any solution. Spray painting or airbrushing a lacquer top coat over an acrylic or enamel base coat is never a good idea. The paint job will look great. 66 American SW, 66 American 2dr, 82 J10, 70 Hornet, Pound, Va. 348AMX . You can generally paint acrylics over (well cured) enamels without any issues at all. Its a single stage paint with some metallic in it. no problem, use hardener in the clear and go over the stripes. Cost savings seem to be the major reason to choose acrylic enamel over urethane, most restorers told us. Clear is Acrylic Enamel with Urethane hardner. I read a day or two would be good? The base coat/clear coat system describes a way to paint cars. Also if this can be done do I still use hardner in base or just clear coat? As paint jobs became more complex, with pearl or metallic finishes, these simple paints could not hold up. Hey folks, I am looking at spray painting a design onto a board that has been done in epoxy. New paints were developed that added these finishes to a base color paint. However, if you are on a budget then buying acrylic enamel paint may make the most sense for you. We offer candy, primer, clear, and base paint colors by the gallon or quart. Clear-coating over decals might work excellent for rim caps! Mon, 2010-08-30 07:05 #1. chrismeyers. Why bother, just spray a good 2K urethane reduced and catalyzed over the enamel, then spray Nason 422-23 over the urethane and basecoat with Omni AU and cover the basecoat with Omni clear MC-161 a medium high build with 3 even coats and wetsand afterwards with 1500 grit. This is called base coat/clear coat, or bc/cc. Acrylic or enamel over epoxy. Worked great, sprayed the clear about 1 week after the color. Might have just been dumb luck, but car looked great 3 years later when I got rid of it. Use alone or as a topcoat on metal, wood, concrete or masonry. So from what i've heard i need to apply an acrylic clear coat … Joined: 01/22/2009 . This acrylic clear coat comes in an aerosol can, and you can buy one can or a pack with up to six cans. For best results enamel paint should be allowed to dry for three to seven days before applying the finish. 4 coats waiting 15 minutes between and then let it set. If you directly apply the paint over a clear coat, it simply will not stick, and you might find an imperfect or splotchy paint job, which would ultimately be more expensive to correct. 1) If you put lacquer over enamel, it will lift and bubble it. The clear coat goes on nice and layers up well with no runs or orange peel. 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